- Dot method?! What is it.
- Does it really work?
- Basic rules of teaching
- FAQ
- Steps
- Resources: where do I get the materials

# Dot method?! What is it?

Out of all the methods by Glenn Doman, his approach to learning math is the most… surprising. We are used to recitals of sequence of numbers (1, 2, 3…), then simple counting, then long and difficult process of weaning off counting fingers and teaching kids to do it in their minds.

Glen Doman believes that there is no need for this long and difficult process. According to the research that was conducted in the Institutes of Achieving Human Potential, children are born with an ability to discern quantity of objects by sight. Remember Rainman? Looking at a hundreds of toothpicks and saying their exact number without counting. Apparently all the kids are able to do it and lose this amazing ability if we don’t help them develop it. In order to do it, Glen Doman suggests using large flash cards with dots (hence – Dot Method), increasing the number of random dots on the cards gradually, getting children accustomed first to quantities, then to equasions with those quantities, and finally even with algebraic sequences, sophisticated equations and even inequalities. Since children get used to doing equations with dots (quantities) instead of numbers (meaningless symbols!), they learn to UNDERSTAND problem solving in math, as opposed to memorizing the formulas to get to the correct answer of the problem. Once children go through this introductory concept of quantities, normal numbers are finally introduced and tiny children continue enjoying sophisticated equations in the more traditional for us way: 127+12-66*2=…

For the details and further proof, please read How to Teach Your Baby Math by Glen Doman. Once you are familiar with the method, you can find brief summary of steps to help you stay on track and further resources.

# Does it really work?

First of all, check this article at WordsBestEducation: The Math Mystery. In this article the bloger describes her own quest for understanding on how the math program works for the kids, how successful it is and what are the reasonable expectations. Elizabeth, the author of the article, cites a phone conversation with IAHP institutes where they answered many of her questions, and then shares her own suggestions on how to make this program successful.

My personal opinion is that, as with any learning system, it depends on a child. And a parent. The book dedicates an entire chapter for testimonials from parents who used this system. TeachYourBabyToRead group contains quite a number of parents who’ve used this system with a great success. There is also a great number of kids who went through the entire program without astonishing results. To each his own, but I am sure that the time they spent on trying to learn math this way was not waisted anyway: their visual pathway is definitely a lot more developed and they’ve spent a lot of quality (and fun!) time with their parents – what can be more rewarding? Besides, who knows, may be this knowledge will surface in a future, giving them boost in understanding of math in school and college.

Thanks to Laurie Tiemens for this important point: “I would like to add another important benefit. More brain pathways are being wired into your child’s brain thereby increasing their ease of learning anything.”

The greatest encouragement for me is my own husband. Even without any dot system, or Rainman’s disorders, he managed to retain this amazing ability: if you show him a card with 98 dots, he knows that there are 98 dots without counting! Number of grapes on a plate, or people in the room – he is never mistaken by more then 2. And, yes, he’s been taking special classes for kids gifted in math for years. So, why not help our kids to enjoy this amazing science?!

To read about other’s experiences with the program, or to share yours, scroll down to our Comments section! Looking forward to hear from you!

# Basic Rules of Teaching

- Begin as early as possible
- Be joyous at all times
- Respect your child
- Teach only when you and your child are happy.
- Stop before your child wants to stop.
- Show materials quickly.
- Introduce new materials often.
- Do your program consistently.
- Prepare your materials carefully and stay ahead.
- Remember the Fail-Safe- Law:

If you aren’t having a wonderful time and your child isn’t having a wonderful time – stop. You are doing something wrong.

# FAQ

# Steps

- Zero Step (for newborns – kids under 3 months old, all other kids should start at the First Step) – dot cards that are very-very large: 15″x15″, with black, very bold dots 1.5″ in diameter. Begin with one card, show it for 10-15 seconds and hold it absolutely still to give him a chance to focus on it. On a first day show “one” dot card 10 times, on second show “two” dot card 10 times; proceed for 7 days with different cards 10 times each day. Repeat for the following two weeks: so, for the first three weeks you show “one” dot on Mondays, “two” on Tuesdays… On week 4: chose dot cards 8-14 and cycle each of them 10 times a day for the following three weeks (card “eight” on Mondays, card “nine” on Tuesdays, etc.) Continue with this pattern until tiny infant is seeing detail consistently and easily (around twelve weeks or later). Chose the correct time of the day: when the baby is in a good mood. Once you realize your infant can see the detail clearly, proceed to step one.
- First Step – Quantity Recognition

Teaching your child to to perceive actual numbers, which are true value of numerals – 5 dot cards 1-100. 2 sets of 5 cards each, three times a day each set. - Second Step – Equations

Start after you’ve showed first 20 cards for First Step.

Don’t test, continue introducing new quantities, i.e. dot cards, (until you reach 100), and add sessions with simple equations: 2+2=4, 5+11=16. Avoid predictable equations: 1+2=3; 1+3=4; 1+4=5. After two weeks of different addition equations, do subtractions, followed by multiplication and division (at two week intervals of 3 sessions of equations per day). - Third Step – Problem Solving

You have completed First Step (showing dot cards), and First Step (simple Equations).

Progress onto more sophisticated three step equations, e.g: 2x2x3=12.

“You are still extraordinary giving and completely non-demanding” (GD, Math, p. 125)- you haven’t done any testing. “The Purpose of problem-solving opportunity is for a the child to be able to demonstrate what he knows if he wishes to do so. It is exactly the opposite of the test.” (GD, Math, p. 126). You can do it at the end of the session.- Hold two cards and ask where is 22 (always offer options!)

“This is a good opportunity for a baby to look at or touch teh card if he wishes to do so.” If he does, make a big fuss. If he doesn’t, simply say, “This is 32″ and, “This is fifteen.” (GD, Math, p. 127). - Give a simple equation and then hold two dot cards for him to chose the result of the equation. Again, always offer options, and if your child doesn’t want to show a card, simply and upbeat say it yourself.

After a few weeks of these equations, make them even more fun: combine addition and subtraction, multiplication and division, but don’t mix the pairs e.g. 40+15-30=25, not 4+2*7.

After a few weeks, add another term to the equations: 56+20-4-4=68.

You can further progress onto:- Sequences
- Greater then and less then
- Equalities and inequalities
- Number personality
- Fractions
- Simple algebra

- Hold two cards and ask where is 22 (always offer options!)
- Fourth Step – Numeral Recognition

11×11 poster board with numerals written in large, red, felt-tipped marker: 6″ tall by 3″ wide.

Combine numbers with dots: 12 greater then dot card of 7; dot card of 12=12 (number) - Fifth Step – Equations with numerals

Make 18″x4″ poster board cards for equations with numerals: 25+5=30; 115x3x2x5 not equals 2,500; 458 divided by 2 minus 229.

# Resources

- How to Teach your Baby Math Kit: collection of dot cards, that gets you through Steps 1-3. Cards for equals or not equals, or for numerals you have to do by yourself.
- Perla Adams, the Classical Mommy, has a PowerPoint presentations with dots, dots and numbers and even some equations – you can print it on a card stock paper, or even show them on the computer: Teaching Quantity. Her presentations can help you cover the steps 1-4 and are absolutely FREE! Thanks, Perla, for another wonderful job!!
- Your Smart Baby Newborn Program Kit: collection of initial cards for the infant, including 10 dot cards (though you probably need more then that – at least 21!), that gets you through Step 0.
- FREE Matthew Hudson’s Doman plugin (its original location is Matthew Hudson’s Doman plugin, but many parents reported that it doesn’t work any more, so I uploaded the zip file “Doman” to make it easier) for Microsoft PowerPoint: terrific plugin that allows you to go through Step 1, 2, some of Step 3 (only two step equations: 15*2=30), step 4, and some of Step 5 (again, only two step equations and numbers are not that big). Plugin also contains a randomizer for your Encyclopedic knowledge words and even a word generator. I personally can’t imagine my son’s program without this wonderful plugin.
- Prodigy Math/Reader for Infants and Toddlers by Geenogee: this is an inexpensive program that helps you through steps 1 and 3. It does get you a little further then Matt’s plugin – it allows 3 and 4 step equations (12/6×35=70), it allows student management, it remembers and reminders you to show the presentations certain number of times per day, tells you how many lessonettes are left for that day. Similarly to Doman, once you get to equations, it just throws a tiny pop up window with the equation, showing only the result dot card on the screen. Not bad, but I wish it could actually offer the entire program: inequalities, sequences, etc. It has numbers, but they are so small… and I haven’t discovered any ways to enlarge numbers, or how to make them red (if you have, please comment below or email me directly!) It’s a pity, that nobody does it! On the other side, same CD contains Prodigy Reader – similar software to teach your kid to read (see more about it at Teach Your Child with Multimedia).
- Our Encyclopedic Knowledge Math section contains some presentations (even with sounds) in English, Russian and Spanish that can aid your math learning and make it more fun.

Dear Alenka,

Is there a downloadable daily schedule for the math program to use with the cards?

Thanks.

ANMB

Sure, just look at the steps above. If your baby is older then 3 months old, start with step one: pick first 10 dot cards, divide them into two sets – 5 cards in each set, and show each set 3 times a day (a total of 6 times). Again, after 10 days, retire one card in each set and add one new card.

If your baby is younger then 3 months old, then it is better to go by the rules outlined in “How Smart Is Your Baby?” – they have a different schedule for everything.

I have baby 5 months old. I consistently use to flash math cards to him. Every time when I use to flash card, I observe that my baby becomes happy. He may identify the difference in quantity of dots. I am now moving towards equation now. lets see how he responds.

Wow, this is so remarkable! Congratulations to both of you!!!

I’d like to start with this program. When you show the dots do you verbalise the number or do you also show the number in print

You hold the card outside baby’s reach and say it happily and enthusiastically: “This is one.” Show the card just for one second (as long as it takes to say it). The faster, the better – babies get bored easily. No need for more descriptions. Just take the next card and repeat the process for the first five cards. No need to show the back. Don’t ask the baby to repeat it back to you, hug and kiss the baby in the end, tell him how terrific she is and how much you love teaching her! Repeat it twice in the first day, each session at least half an hour apart from previous. After the first few weeks, the sessions can be fifteen minutes apart. On a second day add a second set. Eventually you’ll no longer need to say “This is one” or “this is 32″, you’ll just say “one, thirteen,…”

Good luck! Share how it goes!

Hi, just a question about the math dot cards. I started with my 16 month old and we are up to card 20. I started to retire the 2 lowest cards on day 6. Then day 7 another 2 and so on, until now where we are using cards 11 through 20 in 2 batches. My question is, do I continue to retire 2 cards each day until I reach 100 or is there a break of a few days before starting to retire more?

I am finding it quite difficult for my daughter to focus on the cards and enjoy it. She seems more interested in my face or anything else really. Any tips?

Thanks

After you show the first 20 cards, you just continue retiring cards the same way: two old cards go away, two new cards show up. Once your baby has seen the first 20 cards, she is ready for step 2. So now you’ll be showing dot cards AND equations. You’ll be having 9 sessions each day: 2 sets of bits and one set of equations.

My friend’s daughter was never itnerested in words cards, but was fascinated with dot cards! My son was completely disinterested in them. So I played peekaboo with him, hiding behind the card, so that he momentarily looks at it, and then praising him for it a second later.

They also say that the faster you show, the more interested the kids are. There are plenty other ideas that different parents came up with for word cards, that you might find useful:

Runaway Baby: The Alternative Ways of Showing Cards to An Active Child

Can I use 81/2 X 11 inch cardstock instead of 11 X 11?

Thanks!

Hi Alenka,

As I am waiting for my book to arrive, can you please please explain step 1 of math program in more detail?? My baby is 6 months old. Are we suppose to show numeral 1 and then 1 dot? I see that there are several presentations on other website. I am just unclear on how to start even after reading it above.

And we can again use the our computer to show them? From experience is using the computer just as successful.

Thanks soo much.

8×11 cardstock is exactly what I prefer to use too! Other parents use even smaller sizes. It’s more important to find something that works for you, then to follow the instructions to the letter.

Is this work effective after a child passes out of the absorbtion stage around 7.

At that age, I’d rather go with rightstartmath. My son and I absolutely love it, we got it after tons of recommendations from other parents.

I am not the author of the dot technique, Glenn Doman is, so I can’t say for sure. I guess the chances are slim.

I started the Doman Dot Method a couple of weeks ago. My daughter is 26 months and was successful already with YBCR. Anyways, I really want her to perceive quantity, but have no idea if it is working. And I feel like the pressure is on!!

We are on 9 sessions a day having introduced equations; but for most of the time I hadnt known the sessions should be 15 mins apart, so I have been doing them 3 sessions back to back, 3 times per day.

I have spread them all out now (much more difficult, as i have to find 9x per day to get her undivided attention instead of 3); ….. SO is this the right thing to do, or should I have started over?

Also is there anyway to know if she is perceving the quantities before 8 weeks or more are invested?

I strongly believe, that if your baby is enjoying it – it means she is learning! 5 cards, 15 sessions – are arbitrary, sample numbers. Each baby is different. Some can do a lot more. My son never liked the dot cards, and the concept of quantities comes hard for him. I continued until he was three, and then started looking for another approach. We are doing rightstartmath and having a lot more success with it.

My little one seems a lot more interested in math cards, that my older one. So I hope it works for him!

There is a fabulous, fabulous article about Doman math here: Math Mystery.

what do you think from what start math or reading?we’ve figured out, that we will have no time for both( at least for now)

many thanks

Hi Alenka,

this is a wonderful and very very helpful webiste! I just want to thank you for doing this. =)

I’m from Indonesia, and currently reading “How to teach your baby math” and “How to teach your baby how to read”, and I have some questions and hoping that you and other friends here may help?

I speak 3 languages at home. Indonesian, English, and Chinese/ Mandarin. I read in the book that babies are genius and they can learn 5-8 languages without problems. So, I was planning to teach my baby these 3 languages.

But I’m confused about HOW to do it. For instance, when I teach my baby math about 1 dot: Do I say it in Indonesian first, then continue with English, then Mandarin? Or is it English for today, Indonesian for tomorrow, Mandarin next?

Help?

Thank you so much before! And once again, your website has been a great help for a beginner such as myself!

In Doman books they insist it should be reading. Reading is a staple of knowledge. I’d second this: your kid needs reading regardless of the system you choose. Doman’s system allows you to start at the youngest age out of all other system that I’ve found, and it seems to be the least painful to both parents and kids. So, I’d go with reading and add math if you have time. Doman’s reading has an astonishing percentage of success. Doman’s math numbers are not so great – it works for some kids, doesn’t work for many others. You can still give it a try without investing too much money or time into it with some computer programs, like Matt Hudson’s randomizer that is free, or just the ppt presentations. Let me know if you already found these materials at this site or if you’d like a link.

I don’t think there is just one answer to this question: my personal guess is that either way is fine! When we are doing math at home, I am usually using Russian language, but indicate how it is called in English. When I show dot cards to my baby, I use only Russian. When we are doing math, I think it is important to concentrate on math, I don’t want to be distracted with other languages. The only reason I even mention English names for my older one is because he is going to learn math in English in school, so getting to know the terms in English would make the transition easier! The only reason we currently learn math in Russian, is because it is easier to me. Once we get to more advanced terminology, more advanced concepts – I’ll just use English names. I would like to avoid the confusion once he goes to school.

Spanish numbers we learned just by counting. It is

not important to me that my kids know how to correctly name “derivative” or “geometrical progression” in Spanish, so I don’t bother!What information do you want your baby to learn?Hi ALenka,

Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful knowledge with us! I have a question though:

“Sure, just look at the steps above. If your baby is older then 3 months old, start with step one: pick first 10 dot cards, divide them into two sets – 5 cards in each set, and show each set 3 times a day (a total of 6 times). Again, after 10 days, retire one card in each set and add one new card.”

When I first teach my son, I pick 1-5 dot cards and put them into set-1. Then 6-10 dot cards and put them into set-2. According to the book, I should teach my baby 1-10 dots without trying to mix the cards. After a while, I mix the cards. So in set-1 I can have 1,5,7,9,10 dot cards, and the rest in set-2.

Then after a while, you retire the 2 smallest cards, right? In this case it should be 1 and 2 dot cards, and replace them with 11 and 12 dot cards. I was told to separate these 2 new cards into each set. So set-1 should have 1 new card, and set-2 also. Let say I put card number 11 in set-1 and number 12 in set-2.

My question is, if I do this, then card number 3-12 will not be in order then?

Is that okay for the baby? Will he/ she know what number comes after what if we do this?

Thank you!

I shuffle my cards after every showing session. I believe, that the book indicates, that the cards shouldn’t be in order, we strive for randomness. Otherwise the baby may learn what comes next like we learn poems: itsy-bitsy-spider-climbed-up-the-water… spout! 1,2,3,4…5! Reshuffling the cards, mixing the sets helps us to achieve this randomness as much as possible.

I see. So reshuffling the cards are not only okay, but it IS necessary. We only show the cards in order the first time, which include card number 1-10, then afterwards (when the time comes to add new dot cards), we must shuffle them.

Am I getting it correctly? =P

Thank you so much!

Precisely! We reshuffle the math cards every time that we show them, to make sure that the babies (who are just waay too smart for us sometimes), don’t memorize them as a poem – as a sequence of numbers. And, of course, get bored with predictability.

Guys, need help here….

According to the Glenn Doman’s book, the flash card (for math) should be in 11′x11′ size. But that way I can’t use my printer because it’s too big.

Any idea how?

Hi Ida,

I just encountered the same problem. You’re right, 11×11″ (or 28 x 28 cm in my country) is just too big (to print). A friend of mind suggested to just use smaller size, the most important thing is the dots are all there. OR you can draw the dots =P but personally for me, it’s just won’t happen!

I’m open for other suggestions from friends here. Alenka, how do you do it? Thank you!

Regular 8 1/2 by 11 cardstock paper is my personal favorite. 11 x 11 cards that we have, are a pain in the neck to store and, often, even use: they don’t fit into anything – folders, file storage, shelves…

As for drawing the dots (it’s a very interesting idea – I haven’t thought of it), I guess it could work too. Or, may be, getting a really thick marker and making quick dots that way?

In a book they recommend to get dot stickers (sold in office supply stores like Staples quite inexpensively) and create the cards that way.

Hi Alenka! Just curious. Do you print or use dot stickers? =P

Neither: I purchased the number set someplace on ebay for my first one when he was a baby. Only afterwards I found the files, the programs, etc. If I’d find all those things before, I’d rather print – stickers are not for me – I would lose count…

Hahaha… you’re right. I’d lose count too! It’s just that somehow I like that 11×11″ size. A bit OCD I am. =P

Guess I better start buying those stickers if I want to use the 11×11″ size then.

The beauty of 11×11 is that the cards don’t have “top” – the dots are even more random, since you can rotate the card and show it from a completely different side up every time. If your printer takes paper that has width of 11″, then you can try feeding it through the printer and avoid the stickers by printing the dots. Or, you could print the dots on a regular 8.5×11 paper and just paste (or laminate) the paper on 11×11 card. If you use scotch tape to paste it, you probably can even reuse the 11×11 cards for something once you are done with the dots.

The sky is the limit! Have fun!

Hi,

I started making the flashcards myself too, it was a hard job… Then I found the babybit DVDs and bougth them.

All the flashcards are made!!. You don’t need to print anything. Just put the DVD on the DVD player and that’s all… . It saved me a lot of time.

You could find it on http://www.babybit.com

Why don’t you have some examples of the math dots for people to see what it is your talking about. Random dots would not be as good as a fixed set to help remember numbers. If you have a real example I would like you to send me a visual sample of how the dot cards look.

I updated the post with some pictures.

I also found a video of a 1 year old baby pointing to different quantities:

http://grhomeschooling.blogspot.com/2007/12/math-program-anthony-first.html

Since we are trying to teach our kids to understand what numbers are, not just memorize a pattern of dots on the page, the more randomly the dots are distributed on the page, the better it is. We show every card ~15 times (three times a day for five days and retire it at the end), so the child slowly progresses from smaller numbers to bigger ones. We don’t need to do anything special for making sure that the cards are at a different angle every time – just place the card in a set differently, and the pattern will look different from a new angle tomorrow! That’s the beauty of square cards.

Hi I have two children 18 months and 4 years old I read the books I am learning glenn doman Alire was my baby but I could not get the math book here in Morocco can help me exactly what scire I have to do to start the program math aus two children and how the material itself makes even seen that Morocco bookstores have not lived up these books nor his kit and time is short I do not want to waste more time and is Should I start a long learning two at the same time I am a little confused repondez s’ilvous me quickly please

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Hi I have two children 18 months and 4 years old I read the books I am learning glenn doman Alire was my baby but I could not get the math book here in Morocco can help me exactly what scire I have to do to start the program math aus two children and how the material itself makes even seen that Morocco bookstores have not lived up these books nor his kit and time is short I do not want to waste more time and is Should I start a long learning two at the same time I am a little confused repondez s’ilvous me quickly please

Doman math works until certain age… kids lose the ability to perceive quantity after certain age. I’d try showing cards to the little one and see if the older one responds to that too. You can try Matt Huddson’s power point plug in (it’s free) or if you don’t want to do it on the computer, then just print out the files available at the Classical Mommy site – thanks to Perla for sharing it! – Teaching Quantity – and use it as Doman’s flash cards.

For my own four year old – RightStartMath works the best. I can’t praise it enough.

Good luck!

thank you for responding so quickly in fact I think I’ll make myself at home and I thought before I had to write the chifre the same time that the point you think it will not work for my son 4 years is already too late?

Some points:

When I want to teach the concept of 2, I may show 2 dots but then I’d also show 2 apples, 2 bunnies, 2 birds etc so the child gets the idea that you’re talking about a quantity. Otherwise, if you just show the 2 dots in the same place then that may be seen as just a symbol that has nothing to do with quantity. He might think 2 is something to do with dots and nothing else. You may also want several random dot arrangements for each number so that he actually has to count each time instead of seeing the ‘shape’ of the 7 dot card and guessing 7.

Dear Alenka

I’am starting the Flash card with my baby when he is 2 month and reading the light book daily. When I’am showing the card he often seen my face but sometimes he is focus on it when I’am flashing it fast and he smile . is it normal ..? some people said it is ok even he keep playing with his toys actually he is hearing what we said.

HELP!! I THINK I SCREWED UP!

My baby has been learning additions for a week now, and I just realised I have done it the wrong way!! Instead of following the book’s instruction: to show the 1st number, then put it down while saying “add”, then show the 2nd number, then put it down while saying “equals”, then finally show the result… I just flash those 3 cards like I normally do when introducing numbers!!

What should I do now?? Would that affect my baby’s understanding of additions? Or have I just succesfully confused him?

Pls advice…. Thank you so much!!

~a horrified mother~

I would say – absolutely! Showing cards, reading books, interacting with kids – all of that is so beneficial to the kids and their development, regardless weather they will learn how to read before some amazingly small age, or learn it later! If I misunderstood your question, please rephrase it and I’ll do my best to answer it.

I believe that babies are amazingly smart. I don’t think it is important to follow the instruction down to the letter: if your baby is paying attention, looks excited, interested, all of those are probably the signs that he is recognizing the numbers and figured out that first number plus second is the third! Or, he might just take it as another few old quantity-numbers. In any case – nothing to lose – try a different method and see what works for your baby!

Hi I started the math with my son he have 22 months we’re now the card 50 I’ll begin soon after the addition, but the addition subtraction exeter what to do because after I not the books I just saw the internet mthode

Mariama, if I understood you correctly, you already showed first 50 cards and started the addition and subtraction, and love to know the next steps, right? First of all, look here for the steps: Dot Method Steps Summary. So, after you do addition for approximately two weeks (depending on your baby), substraction (the next two weeks), multiplication, division, inequalities, sophisticated equations. You continue having sessions with just dot-numbers, and you have sessions with some kind of equations. You can try problem solving (holding two cards and asking baby for an answer to a question, or problem), you can try introducing numerals and then equations with numerals. Good luck!

i mean wat after that whan he will have for exemple 30 months this methode still valable from him and wat can i must to do after all this operation equation multiplication :::

It depends on a child. I haven’t had ANY success with Doman math with any of my boys. However, I know moms, whose kids prefer math even to reading and encyclopedic knowledge! There is also an excellent blog by a mother, who had a fantastic success with Doman math, and whose boy actually retained this amazing ability well passed the age of three.

This is the link to her blog: http://grhomeschooling.blogspot.com/

This is the link to her Doman Math article (incredibly inspiring): http://grhomeschooling.blogspot.com/search?q=doman+math

think ou alenka for respending me can help me also and show me haw can i help my son to have a success for reading with a glenn doman method i know that we talk about maths here can you give me your adresse msn if you want may be you can show me how succefly can i help hem to perfect this methode cause my children know the words only in cards but when i show the same words in the book he dont know it

That’s an excellent question. It deserves a separate article: My Kids are Reading The Cards… and not books!

Alenka hi i want to said you at first think you for your reponse and i want to ask you also if you know a site we can downlowd a fench flaschcard free and can you telle me please what a mthode of maths did you use for our children alenka aree you from russian

Did you mean French flash cards? I don’t know a site with French. I wish I did.

Math: I LOVE Right Start Math. It is fun, playful, very diversified, covering all variety of math subjects, resulting in deep understanding. I can see traces of Montessori, of Kumon, of other approaches. This seems like a very successful combination.

Hi Alenka,

when starting with the 2nd step – equation, do i use dots or numerals

thanks.

Dots first. Numerals are introduced much later… We had 2 weeks of addition, substraction, multiplication and even division prior to introducing numerals (and continued showing bit cards until we reached a hundred).

Hi there,

I am a new mother of baby 3 months plus. When I showed him the Maths dots card, he never concentrade and just turn the head to other side. He love the colorful toys.

Is this normal? Is the card too young for him?

Pls advise.

thanks,

mary

Yep! It is completely normal. You are being a wonderful mommy by working on your little one’s development this early, and your baby is already capable to display his preferences – wonderful development for a three month old! Try again the cards later, or try to find a more fun and joyous approach… and rejoice regardless of the result: individual attention, something to concentrate on, your hugs and words – all aid to your baby’s development, even if math wouldn’t become his favorite subject. Good luck!

Hi there,

I have a 8 month old and I am trying to get him onto the maths flash cards. Like any mother I am not a big fan (or have the energy) of making my own flash cards using stickers. I won’t mind using a DVD but I am just wondering if anyone actual sells these Maths flash cards pre-printed?

I looked on ebay and found this (http://myworld.ebay.com/playtimecenter/) person selling the flash cards. It sounds pretty good, they said they have 28cm x 28cm flash cards for 109 cards. Is that the right number of cards? It’s not cheap around $85 USD.

I just want to make sure that’s the right thing since it’s not a cheap investment.

Any advice?

Sorry for the delay in my answer: we were away for a while. But we are back!!!

http://www.GentleRevolution.com is the official “Doman affiliated” site. I used to buy the cards from them: Gentle Revolution Math Kit.

Their cards are good, but as you already probably have read it elsewhere on ChildAndMe, math program didn’t work for my kids.

So, there are other options: I’ve listed them here Dot Method Resources. Most of the options are free: print out a PDF, or just show it on a computer.

Hi Alenka,

My baby boy is now 6m old. I’ve been flashing cards since he was 1m old (at first using the black and white picture then move on to words).

My concern is now he seems bored with the cards, even after I stop for a few days (this used to work). And when I ask him to solve problem (like, this is 52, this is 25, whis is 52?), he either just smiles at me, or grab whicever card he can reach (and then mouth it), just stare at the cards, or ignore me altogether.

Does this mean I did smt wrong?

My nephew who is 2m older, can chose the right word, and also can pick the right number. I’m a bit discourage here.

Help please. Thanks a heap! =)

~ Kayla Lee

Dear Alenka and friends,

first to Kayla: I share the same concern. My baby boy is about your baby’s age, we’ve reached all 0-100 dots, buat now he’s absolutely refused to play with them. hence, i don’t know what to do next other than take a “holiday”, for how long i don’t know. He seems to be take interest in those cards again after a few days, but then he just ignore it again.

to Alenka & friends: i know this probably is OOT, but i was wondering what do you moms think about letting your infants watch interactive DVD? Is it harmful or useful? I bought these sets from winktolearn.com, basically they’re flashcards but in DVD form, and it says there can be used from 6m-7yr old child… but I also read about “TV & DVD can be harmful to kids” and other similar articles. So, is it safe or harmful, moms? What do you think?

Thank you!

I wish I could help you more with the dot cards! My kids weren’t even interested in them. I guess giving a little time, or jumping to a different topic: offering equations? Moving to a new step? Or providing more fun interactive ways to view them since your kids are getting to an age of active exploration… I hope this list of ideas may turn out helpful: Alternative Ways For Showing Cards

DVDs: fascinating, very heated topic. See my answer here Letting infants watch TV. You can find my latest thoughts on that issue at the comment section of the article. I’d love to hear more.

Dear Alenka,

I heard about dot cards to teach math for babies when my baby was just 4 months old.I haven’t started my teaching yet because we parents are always busy for the daily living.

Now my baby is 22 months old toddler, he can speak well and interested in numbers. But is it too late to start at his age and what should i start with him first

Thank you very much

I just access Prof. Doman’s method through internet, no physical materials are avaiable in my country

Cards are easy to make without ordering them directly from Doman site, so you can give it a try: it definitely wouldn’t hurt! If your baby is interested, he might retain this seeing quantity ability for quite a few years letting him learn math from a greatly advanced new perspective. If not – each time he is concentrated/looking at the card – his brain is working harder, more neural cells are engaged, so it is helpful no matter if he learns to recognize quantities or not.

You can do cards with dot stickers (or you can use a very thick marker), or you can use Math Hudson randomizer, or print out the cards: Teaching Quantity.

My kids are 2 and 4 years old now. I am confuse now, should i use the dots card only or those dots card with number to show it to my kids? Thank a lot

You can try the dots, but dots work best for babies… if they work at all. You can try the dots and see if your kids respond to it, like it. If they do – give it a try by all means! If not, at that age, I’d try rightstartmath. I am always recommending it, since I use it with my own kid and we LOVE it. I love how that system actually combines quantity recognition, Montessori, Singapore math, other things that I’ve never heard of. I find it excellent.

Hi, may I know when you will start showing numerals, or when to stop showing dots to the child? Thanks..

I use dot cards with my 5 year old students so found this article and the comments very interesting. I also use ten frames which use a similar idea. I printed enlarged sets of both of these and ideas on how to use them at:

http://www.k-5mathteachingresources.com/ten-frames.html

Others may be interested?

Thanks for sharing! Looks fascinating!

its great alenka and helpful also

i need help

i didn’t get how to show equation and multiplication with dot cards and should we have to show it again with numeral

Hi Alenka,

I just have a quick question. Seeing that you said that neither of your boys took to the dots, would you recommend that I start my soon to be two year old on the rightstartmath? What age is it designed for? I know that I am probably somewhat late with Doman anyway, but really, I have all the intentions to start some math preparation as soon as possible. Thanks.

Liza

I LOVE rightstartmath and we had great results with it with my older one… but at a slightly older age then a two year old toddler. If your child is only turning two, you could give Doman math a try. It doesn’t interfere with anything. If your baby will be totally disinterested, he’ll let you know. If he will become interested, Doman’s method opens remarkable horizons and I’ve seen parents whose kids seemed genuinely interested.

With my own two year old I gave up on dot method math. Didn’t work. So, we sing songs from rightstartmath for memorizing the visual representations of the numbers, learn the numerals. He is also too young for rightstartmath lessons, but once he is ready, the lessons will start with teaching him to recognize simple quantities (2, 3, 5, 10 fingers, sticks, buttons, tiles) and organizing them into meaningful groups. That’s what we are already doing: grouping two, three, five, ten objects, building meaningful groups that we’ll learn to operate later, just getting used to those concepts.

Showing numbers with fingers is hard for him (coordination is not there yet), so when my son wants to show that there are two of something, he will just hold two index fingers, or use a thumb to “build” a three this way… and all hand for a five, or both for ten. I find it pretty good – I don’t care if can recite the numbers in order at that moment (he is just starting to talk and while he builds long complete sentences, whole stories, I am the only one to translate this mixture of weird sounds and sign language, and understand it). But every time I have a chance, we’ll isolate a few objects, group them together and “play” by “adding”, “subtracting”, grouping into easy to recognize number patterns.

If you have other suggestions on how approach with learning math at such a young age, I am eager to hear it.

No, unfortunately, I have no idea how to best introduce math. I haven’t tried the dots but I guess this is where I’ll start. As far as singing songs, is it a problem for you that they are not in Russian? Because we haven’t introduced any English yet. My daughter counts, all the time, when we take the stairs etc. but I am not sure she even knows what it means. Thanks for your suggestions. So, what age is the rightstart for? 4?

Thanks,

Liza

Liza, I introduced math with dots. You can try it too – I have a summary of the program here, or you can borrow the book from the library. You can use the links in Resources to download free plugin for PowerPoint to generate dot cards, or the Power Point flash cards that Perla created.

As for singing songs – we sing both in English and Russian. I translated their original English number songs to Russian, e.g.:

??? ???? ???????…

????? – ??? ???? ? ????!

????? ?? ???????? ????…

???? – ??? ???? ? ???!

??? ?????? ????????…

?????? – ??? ???? ? ???!

??????? ?????? ??????…

?????? – ??? ???? ? ??????!

????? ?????? ??? ?????…

?????? – ??? ???? ? ????!

?????? ?? ??????? ?????. ???????????. ?? ???????????? ????? ?? ??????? ?????. ? ????? ???????? ?? ????? ???????????…

The other songs that we use are not rightstartmath specific: “1, 2 – buckle my shoe” (we show with fingers all the numbers), “Bees in a beehive” by David Weinstone (Music for Aardvarks), etc. We incorporate fingers in everyday count-downs (1, 2, 3 – swim! 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 – you got your shoes on!) We count little objects visually (not one by one) – how many animals? How many tiles? Let’s see… two and two… four! Let’s show four fingers. Let’s check ourselves and count…

“Officially” with my older one, we started rightstartmath around 3 and a half? Or 3? Definitely by four we were deeply in love with it. We started slowly: doing one lesson over a few weeks, but now we are jumping through 2-3 lessons per every session (we rarely have a chance to squeeze more then one session a week). With my older one, I also used a Kumon principle: a little bit every day. At least 3 times a week he is doing some math problems right in a car – as we are going somewhere, I’ll throw in 3-5 easy-to-difficult problems for him to solve. At first it was a little difficult, but now he is adding three digit numbers in his head!

I also find very important to offer diverse thinking exercises: I really like logical brain teasers like RushHour Jr., or ThinkFun, Red Fox games. Despite the indicated ages on the boxes, we started working on those by age four. My son’s interest to those games is really strengthening only now, but we’ve been doing it for a while, and some of his friends with more mathematical brain, were at quite astonishing levels by age five…

Good luck! Please share how it goes!

Thanks so much for such a complete answer. I will most definitely be sharing anything relevant as it comes up. As usual I am amazed by your stamina, with two kids no less… I might give the dots a try. We love the Aardvarks but Sara hasn’t really taken to them. I like your translation by the way, it’s nice to know that the program you recommend incorporates songs, we love singing! Thanks again,

Liza

Liza, rightstartmath includes only a few songs, but they are very useful. Thank you for your kind words, they are very encouraging! ?? ???? ????, ???????? ??? ?? ????????, ?? ??????????? ????? ? ???? ????????? ????????, ? ??? ???????? ?????????? ??? ?????? ????????.

Rightstartmath includes other fun features: clapping, tapping and identifying the number by listening to taps and claps. It was lots of fun…

Your little one didn’t like music for Aardvarks? Did you just listen to the CDs or did you take a class? I am currently taking the classes with my little one and we are both in love. But I have to credit our teacher a lot – her charisma and remarkable personality (she is quite a character) lends an undeniable appeal. Add that to the fun music, great moves, involved parents and it’s a recipe for a success. I wish we could share, but I am not sure in which areas it is available.

Hi

If i start from zero step..so i only show the dot card to my baby and no need teach him like ” this is one” for one dot card ” this is two” for 2 dots card? if no need to tell him, how did he know which one is one and which one is two?

yes, for some reason my daughter didn’t really enjoy the CD. taking the class would have probably been a lot better but here in NJ it was difficult to find. on the other hand, we have just completed our music together classes, and although they teach no math whatsoever, i can recommend them. i really do think that whatever you as a parent show your child is worth enjoying, they will enjoy as well. are you doing any encyclopedic knowledge with your little one? how about piano? there are so many things that one could do, yet so little time… we just go for walks in the park and meet friends most of the time. not much real heavy duty educating going on. sara is in the midst of a super language boom where everyday she churns out multiple new words. it’s really amazing. but i have been showing her cards with russian words on them and yesterday she couldn’t even recognize mama, so i am not sure how to proceed. thanks for your help.

cheers,

liza

umm, one more question, if i may. i was looking at the schedule you have posted for introducing math and then i realized that i was even more confused than i had previously thought. when the author talks about introducing equations, is she talking about showing dots and saying their values or is she talking about showing numbers and saying their values, how is it done exactly? plus, even as she is introducing equations she continues recycling numbers, right? the dot ones i guess. anyway, a bit of clarification please.

thanks,

liza

You can start with one card a day for a little infant, or five cards a day for a slightly older baby. Look at your baby’s reaction and you’ll know how many cards do you need – you should stop before your baby wants to stop.

If you start with just one card on a first day, I’d show the card briefly and say something like “This is one.” Then you give your baby a great big hug, kiss him, praise him. The next day you show the card with one dot again: “This is one.” Then, when you show the card with two dots: “This is two”. Again – hugs, kisses, joy of learning. Over the next few days you build up your set of five cards, and start just naming the quantity: “one, two, five, four…” Reshuffle the cards after each session. Praise, kisses, hugs are due at the end of each session. Build it up to three sessions a day, then to 2 sets three times a day (6 sessions totally). After five days of showing five cards, start retiring one card, adding another one. Does this clarify things?

Hi I am thinking of making my own flash cards for my 8 month old baby. The measurement of 15″x15″ with 1.5″ diameter of black dots are for 0-3 months, may I know the right measurement for 4 months and above please? Thanks alot!

Official Doman dot cards that are sold in their GentleRevolution store are usually 11×11 cards with each dot about .5″. Same cards are included as a part of their SmartBaby kit for newborns. I hope this helps.

THANKS A MILLION!!!!!!!!!!!! can’t wait to start cutting and coloring……THANKS again!!!

I very much need to download Matthew Hudson’s Doman plugin for Microsoft PowerPoint. The link here does not work. DOES ANYONE HAVE THIS PLUG-IN OR KNOW HOW I CAN OBTAIN IT???

Hi Alenka,

I have noticed that there’s some controversy about presenting dots to 2 year olds. So, my question is, do you think it is better to wait and start another program? My daughter will be turning two in a month. Also, can you shed some light in the differences between right start, jones genius and touch math? Thanks so much,

Liza

The link goes to the original Matt Hudson’s file location, where I found it. If it doesn’t work, I’ll upload it tomorrow at ChildAndMe instead. It took me some time to find it too, so I know firsthand how frustrating this can be! Tomorrow night I’ll zip mine and hang it here, the this site.

Hi Alenka

My son is 4 months one week now . do u think he should start from zero step or first step? if start from first step, understand hv to prepare 2 set of dot cards (1st set 1-5 and 2nd set 6-10) 3 session a day. according you msg on dated 28Mar. for those little infant can start from 1 dot card per day. do u mean 1st day start from 1 dot card ,2nd day, 1 dot card and 2 dot card , 3rd day= 1 dot , 2 dot and 3 dot and 4th day =1 , 2 ,3 and 4 dot and 5th day =1 , 2 ,3, 4 and 5 dot, on 6th day, i will take a dot card out and replace with another new dot card, am i right?

With a three month old I’d start with just one card and add more cards gradually. I’d show one card on day one. I’d show two cards on day two. If he really likes it – add two, three cards on a day three and show all five of them! Five is really a sample number. Some kids like more cards, some like less. And, yes, you described the process of card introduction exactly the same ways as in Doman’s books! For my kids, once I built a set of 5 cards, I was showing it for a few days and then introducing a “six dots” card (and retired one). After that I was rotating a card on a daily basis. I don’t remember why I was doing it that way – seemed right for my kids. And that’s all that matters – one card, two cards, ten cards – as long as you are consistent and your baby likes it – it doesn’t matter! Trust your baby – he’ll tell you which way he wants to learn.

Hi Alenka.

thanks for your info. is it we can start the simple equation when we finish the card 1 dot~20 dots? example: i show my son 3 dots + 6 dots. so is i tell him the answer is 9 dots? cannot be ask him to answer , am i right? for ‘+’ , i need to show him the card of ‘+’ or just tell him ?

i am thinking the dot card is for them easier to understand the calculation, am i right? what about the number card? do u think i need to show them same time when i show the dot card to them? which mean i show 2 kind of card at once. 1 dot card and 1 number card? i am worry they will get confus? or i seprate to teach them? maybe morning i show 1 dot card first and evening i show him 1 number card? what is your way to teach yr son?

just curious, when do you start to teach your son? wht is the result? yr son whether able to count the equation , how long time u spend on this?

Yes, after you introduce card with 20 dots (so you have cards 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20 dots) you ADD a session (you continue showing individual dot cards, adding new ones, retiring old ones) for addition. You take five sets of equations and show them very fast: 5 (show card with five dots) + (do not show anything, you’ll introduce cards like that later, at this point you can just say it out loud and the baby will understand it from the context) 3 (show card with three dots) = (again, no card, just a word, like “is” or “equals”) 8 (show card with eight dots. Build up how many equations you show per each session. So, for the next two weeks, each day you’ll be having your two sessions with new dot-numbers (no need for numerals yet) and 3 sessions for equations. After two weeks – instead of addition, start subtraction… then multiplication, etc. Good luck!

Hi Alenka

Thanks for your prompt reply. for 5 sets of equation, for 3 session for each day, for the next day, is it change to another new 5sets of equation or same as day 1?

You prepare 9 different sets of equations for each day (3 equations per session; 3 sessions). You show DIFFERENT equations every time. That’s why Doman’s official cards have sample equations at the back; that’s why I really like Matt Hudson’s randomizer that automatically creates as many equations as you wish. Finding the right cards and sorting them back always took too much time for me. I fairly quickly transitioned to the computer, but you do whatever works better for you and your kid!

Hi Alenka

Now i already finished dot 1~ dot5 card. so the next will be take out a dot card and replace with dot 6 card right? mean the dot card will be 2, 3, 4,5 and 6 dot card? each session, i am show the dot card to my 4months son in the sequence or can reshuffing the card? do u think he will confuse if i reshuffing or rotating the card?

Hi Alenka

Sorry one more question. I already dot 1 ~ dot 5 card, so the next i add in dot 6 , so will be 1, 2, 3, 4 ,5 , 6 and next day add in one more dot 7 , will be 1, 2, 3, 4. 5. 6. 7 . Do u think this way is correct? or just remain 5pcs of dot card in each session? mean, 1, 2 , 3, 4 5 then take out dot 1 and replace with dot 6 , become 2, 3, 4, 5 6, ? if i remain 5 pcs of dot card, do u think they will forget what the number what he learn at the beginning? please assist.

Yep! You add 6, remove 1, reshuffle after every session, rotate the cards as much as you can to randomize how the baby sees quantities so that he can concentrate on only one thing – quantities and learning what they mean! Good luck!

Hi Alenka

Which mean every time i show the card to my son is only 5 pcs of card, right? when do i repeat the previous card for him? example: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 next will be 3.4.5.6,7 . when should i repeat the 1 , 2 again? or i no need repeat the earlier dot card, just continue and replace with new dot card?

Doman states that children don’t need a review. They get bored with it. Yet, t still get a review: after you show the first 20 dot card, you introduce equations and kids get to see those old cards again in addition, subtraction, division, etc.

Hi Alenka

Thanks for your info, so every time i only remain at 5 pcs of dot card ,right?

Yep! Five cards in each set. You can try having 2 sets of cards or even more, if your baby likes it (so with 2 sets x 3 times every day you’ll have 6 sessions day).

Yep, you keep showing 5 cards in each sessions, if that’s what works for your baby. With my word cards, I have different amounts of cards in different sets. Some sets are rather large, some are rather small. As long as you stop before your baby wants to stop, as long as you keep this joyous – it can be a set of 5, 10 or even 100 cards. Your baby will let you know if he wants more… or if it is too much.

Hi Alenka

I tried to show the dot card to my 5months baby..when i show the card..his leg keep kicking and look like excited..but when i read “this is one” for dot one card and “two” for dot 2 card and “three”..n he just c the card..nothing react so i am not sure he can understand or remember or not i just show him each card about 3 ~4 second..is it ok?

If the baby doesn’t mind watching the cards, that’s already a great reaction. If his leg is kicking, if he looks excited – what could be better? As for knowing that he is learning, that he is remembering – this is TOOO early (for babies, parents often wait until their 3-4th birthday to get a reaction, and some even for 5th!!). Lack of negative reaction, of losing interest – is a great reaction. I’d stop naming it with long sentences and I’d jump to quickly (lightning quick, really-really-really quick flipping) showing all the cards. Many babies look at their moms face, and not at the card. That’s ok, they still learning… quick glance, or even a side vision, might be enough for some of them. So, by keeping his attention with you and your cards, your baby is already telling you, that he doesn’t mind, that this new game seems exciting to him. Keep it exciting: fun, joyous, with lots of hugs, kisses and really fast flipping of the cards (and timely replacements of the old/new – the worst that you can do – is to bore your baby and lose his interest!).

I guess that observation (how baby reacts), strong trust (that this is beneficial to him regardless weather he’ll turn out a math wiz or this method will pass him without evoking mathematical excellence) and joyous attitude are truly main ingredients in this learning soup.

Hi Alenka

Thanks for your relpy..do u mean i should do is just show the dot card quickly n just only say out “one, two three four…. i am afraid i read too fast and he cannot remember or absorb……

Yep! “This is one”, “This card says two” we say only on a first-second day. After that, we flip as fast as possible and name that word/number. Say just “7, 8, 2, 4, 6″, as you flipping really fast. Or “apple, mommy, Bobby, daddy, bottle”. I believe that somewhere in the reading section there is a mention, that in the army when officers/soldiers have lots of new material to learn, they are using this fast flipping method as opposed to slow and explanatory. The faster – the better – fraction of a second is all the baby will need. The worst thing – is to bore the baby. Usually when someone reports loss of interest, the first thing asked is how fast you are showing! You don’t need to check that he is learning. Just trust and keep going. He’ll get a hang of it – the baby is not memorizing numbers in this system, but the whole system of understanding quantity. If the baby grasps THAT, then it wouldn’t matter if he remembered 1, 3, 15 from the early days. He’ll know just by looking, he’ll *understand* that what three dots are, as opposed to count them, or remember it. Besides, the baby will actually see the old cards again later in the equations! Good luck!

Hi,

Does it matters how I arrange the red dots if I’m going to DIY the flashcards myself.

Thanks

The more random each arrangement of the dots, the better.

Dear Alenka,

I just need to know when the dots are 40s or in 60s how can the baby see the exact amount of dots in seconds by the flashcard method specially if the dots are put randomly on the paper

That’s an excellent question. For the answer on how the baby can see it, you need to go back to Doman’s math book, where the logistics are explained in detail. I’ve read it a while ago, and now I just remember the summary, the conclusion: the faster, the more random, the better. The baby should UNDERSTAND quantity, as he/she is looking at the card, not just remember the visual pattern.

And as for proof… look for Elizabeth’s article on Math Mystery. Again, it didn’t work for either of my two boys, but neither of them seem to be visual learners anyway. My greatest inspiration was my husband: without ever seeing a single Doman card, he can identify quality in an instant, weather he is approximating the amount of people in the room, grapes on the plate, or dots on the card. His margin of error so far is 1-2 (e.g. he’ll look at a card that has 78 dots, and may think it has 77 or 76). Sort of, like Rainman. This amazing ability allows to learn complex algebra by understanding how quantities relate to each other, as opposed to memorizing formulas. I hope this helps!

Hi Alenka.

Recently i show the dot card to my son , he wan to hold and grap the card.. not like one month ago, he can sit quietly n c the card when i read to him… but when he saw i take all those dot card then he very excited and keep to kicking the leg.wht does this mean? is it he boring to read the dot card

I think if he is excited, kicking, giggling, even wiggling – that’s the sign that he is interested. If he is kicking to get away from you – that’s another story. Happy – good, unhappy – bad.

Hi! I had a question on how to move forward with our math program. My son has gone through the dot cards and equations and we have been doing 5 equations a day using keynote for many months. We are still using dots and have not moved on to numerals. Do I simply hold up the numeral card and say ‘this is one’ or do I need to hold up the dot card and the numeral car for reference? When I start making problems using numerals, should i keep the entire problem on one slide? Thanks for you advice.

Dear All,

Allow me to congratulate you all for the efforts and time you are sharing with your mum’s colleague

This website is a treasure and I am thanking you in advance for your answers!

I need your help to become a professional mother

Here is my situation :

I am French from Morocco and my husband is British from Kurdistan… and we live in Dubai (not complicated at all). So I am fluent in French and Arabic and I am doing some efforts for my english.

I discovered Goman methods few weeks ago. I have a son (9 months) and I am planning to start the READ program this week.

My program is to start the classic teaching program and to introduce a new language everytime I reach the 2nd steps (couplets).

I will start with english and once I start Couplets, I will introduce french, then Arabic then Kurd…

What do you think of this methode?

Also in parallel, I want to do the Math program.

Can I Start with English (like morning english afternoon math?) or should I wait till we reach a certain level in reading before starting Math?

Hopefuly my message is not too confusing…

I hope you will have time to reply and give me all your advice.

Thank you

Kindest Regards

Awatef

Wow, what a combination of languages! Sounds fascinating.

Your plan to introduce things one after another seem very reasonable to me: get used with one thing, then dive into another. The beauty with babies is that they don’t need to have any previous experience in anything to learn… the downside, is that they often have their own agenda and our best efforts to teach them something new and exciting (to us) may not be part of that agenda. So I strongly believe in trying everything, that you LOVE. Your joy, your love, your enthusiasm can do magic… and, hopefully your ability to stop. I am having issues with the last one (stopping, not pushing), but then – there is always another day and another chance!

When it comes to foreign languages babies are natural polyglots at birth – the more the merrier. Just come up with some system, that works for both of you. I used to be speaking Russian, English, Spanish to my little ones from the very beginning, but somehow got too busy recently and didn’t have enough time to keep up in Spanish: we were watching presentations, but not really speaking. Now my really strong willed little one is determined to ignore Spanish – he closes my mouth with his cute chubby hand and doesn’t let me speak Spanish any more. He doesn’t mind the cards in Spanish or CDs that we keep listening in the car, but gets very mad at me for speaking or reading in Spanish. Lesson learned: consistency, keeping up with what you started – apparently restarting after a break is harder then just continuing.

So, I’d start speaking all languages that you have at your disposal to the baby as early as possible. When it comes to the written language, I loved your system of introducing new language words slowly. This will give you time to adjust and build up your program slowly to keep it up consistently.

Good luck!

Please share your progress!

Dear Alenka,

Thank you so much for your time and advice.

FUN FUN FUN should be the leitmotif in order to teach baby

I am picturing your little one closing your mouth as soon as you speak spanish, hillarious!

I am sorry to coming back to you regarding Math (can I introduce it with english or should wait we reach a certain level in reading?)

Muchas Gracias

Awatef

It is never too late. You can start flash cards whenever you are ready to have multiple joyful and consistent sessions. Age window for looking at dot cards, I believe, is closing around 2-3 years.

Hi

I still didnot start with the flash card and dots card. My little one is now 6 months. Is it too late. Please advise what should i start with.

Thank for your sharing, I also use the same method to teach my kids from his was couple months and I can see a little feedback now….I totally agare that “don’t ask result, just do it!!” because teaching and learning are both long term works….if you put too much expect sometime you will disappoint. Just wanted to share that I found something cool for support teaching baby math. http://babycan.org/

my baby is 18 month old and whenever i used to show him math cards he is not intrested in looking it but play with them what should i do?

I had a hard time with math cards too. May be you could find a playful way of showing the cards? My kids really loved pretending to wash it, clean it, blow on it, play hide and seek, even pretend vacuum cleaning… see here for more ideas: http://www.educationaltoysplanet.com/blog/runaway-baby-alternative-ways-showing-cards-active-child/

Hi, came across your website and really useful. I just started my 9 month old on GD Math. At Day 2 now. I got the kit and it came with the various equations etc. Read that I am supposed to retire 2 cards on day 6 but you mentioned 1 card, so which is which? Am a little confused.

Also, in my notes/kit, it is stated to introduce ADDITION equations on Day 21 which on Day 20, I am retiring 29 and 30, adding 39 and 40.

Should I just follow the notes? I hope to start right with my baby and not end up doing it wrongly.

I have the GD English too but only showed the PICTURE cards when my son is 4 months, then stopped. Read that I should start English first then introduce Math. Am I doing it wrongly?

In the edition of the Doman books that I’ve read, it is generally recommended to get the reading program well established, and then add math. Math works just for some kids, while reading is called “the staple of learning” in Doman’s books, so it is recommended to start with word cards. However, if you already have math cards, and don’t have reading cards, AND you already started, why stop? I’d continue showing the math cards. According to the GD math book that I have, you retire 1 card in each set that you are showing after the first five days. You are aiming at ~15 glances at each card before it is retired (so by showing the initial set for 5 days, three times a day, on sixth day you are ready to start retiring some cards). If you have two sets of cards (e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 in one and 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 in the other), then on a sixth day you start retiring 2 cards (e.g. 1 & 2) and add two new ones (e.g. 11, 12). The other cards remain in a set – babies like seeing some things that they already know and look forward to new ones. Too much new ones – they get overwhelmed. Hypothetically. Realistically – you’ll see how it works for your daily schedule and your kid!

Equations – on day 20 (or in approximately two weeks of showing single cards), in addtion to showing single cards, you start making equations out of the cards that your baby already knows. So, suppose you would retire cards 31 & 32 and add 41 & 42. Then you would create 5 new equations (2 4 6, 5 5 10, 14 3 17…)… and you would then have 3 sets to show: Set of numbers 1, Set of numbers 2 and Set of equations. Supposedly it should be three separate sessions… three times a day each. Half and hour apart. If you follow the schedule to the brim, you’ll end up with 25 sessions a day.

This schedule never worked for me, so I had only 3 sessions of everything back to back: 5 words, 5 numbers, 5 equations, 5 animals (encyclopedic knowledge), etc. Eventually math dropped off for us but reading became more involved. Now it is smth like this: 1 English set of words, 1 English set of couplets, 1 Russian set of words, 1 Russian set of couplets, 1 spanish… 1 set of Encyclopedic knowledge… and 1 home-made book about my son created with words that we’ve already covered. Just a sample. Use program guidelines as suggestions and create a program that works for you, your baby and your lifestyle!

Good luck!

Hi Alenka,

Thank you for this wonderful page!

Do you know if Matt’s plugin will work with Mac? I’m a Mac user and have downloaded the zip file but I do not seem to be able to get it to work.

Thanks.

Hi,

I had started dot cards with my child and completed till 90. She was able to recognize the numbers. Equations were difficult for her so I stopped. I want to restart doing dot cards. She will now be 3 years in March 2012. Should I start with the dot cards, since she liked them earlier but could not understand equations. Or is she too old now for dot cards?

Thanks

Wow! Up to 90 – sounds like and AMAZING result! As for how to continue – check with your baby – show her the cards and see how interested she is. I recently started doing rightstartmath with my three year old and love it-love it-love it. My six year old is in love with it, and my three year old seemed excited!

I used Glen Doman’s book of dots and numerals (detachable flash cards up to 100) with my baby daughter (5/6 months old) in 1979. She grasped the concept of number within a month, and at 4 years old was able to multiply 3 x 4 within 5 seconds. I didn’t need to teach her how to work with numbers at all……the knowledge was enough. She went on to become an engineer, solving technical problems. A STUNNING TRAINING METHOD.

This is ABSOLUTELY REMARKABLE!!!! You should feel very proud – you gave your child the most incredible gift she ever could have.

Hai Alenka!

My 18 months twins girls was entered a Singaporean school in Indonesia. This school is based on all Glen Doman’s technique (it was I read in their curriculum). I am so enthusiastic. Coz I want to raise my daughters to become genius!

Further reading the above posts, now I understand why was the math dots jumped from 1,2,3,4,5 to 36,37,38,39. I know now this card shuffle is necessary n important.

My twins in Walker class until end Sept’12. Also, unfortunately their granma, was so-old-fashioned-and-old-minded. She did not allow twins to go to school until 7years old for Chatolic school.

Therefore, I will bring the materials to printing company to be print-out as mentioned above.

Since I want to raise my twins to become genius, not as my mom.

Thanks Alenka for the great page!

I L <3 ve it.

Thank you, Alenka. I am proud of her, but without Glenn’s method she wouldn’t have been so numerate………TOTAL thanks to THE METHOD!

Hi Alenka, I’ve got a question about GD’s maths method. But first of all I’d like to say WOW! What an amazing website! So much advice. I only found it yesterday but want to read it all. Thank you so much for sharing!

I understand you speak Russian. I am Russian too but live in the UK. I have just started doing the dot method by GD and wonder if I teach my daughter the numbers in Russian, will she be counting in English just as quick? Or shall my British husband teach her the dots in English too, let’s say I do twice a day in Russian, and him once a day in English? Sorry if I condused you… Thank you in advance.

My son is 4 years old. How do I teach him maths?

Usually the window of opportunity until 2 years old. You can try… but with this age, I’d try rightstartmath – I am very fond of them and using for all my kids. I am also using singaporemath – just the workbooks.

I used both languages, mixing them badly along the way – it was more comfortable for me, switching back and forth: my kids grow up in US, so they probably wouldn’t ever need Russian math terms. Numbers – they know both in Russian and English. At the point of showing dot cards I was using Russian. As soon as we switched to rightstartmath, I used both – I would explain things in Russian (and still do), but some term I’d just use in English. I went to college in the US, so some Russian terms I no longer even remember… So far – no problems. My approach – whatever is easier, more comfortable, and gets the point across.

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Hi

Now My Son age is 16 Months can i start with zero Step or can I start with First Step and how to keep my kid quite to show these cards. I tried it earlier also but he is not concentrating on the cards but he wants to hold the cards always. Can you please guide me how to show and start this flashcards to my Kid.

Thank you in Advance.

For some ideas on how to attract your son’s attention, check this out: http://www.educationaltoysplanet.com/blog/runaway-baby-alternative-ways-showing-cards-active-child/

Hi

I’m just reading the book how to teach math

I was bit confused with the text regarding showing equations. They have mentioned that we have to take eg. 3 dot and 5 dot card and say 3+5=8 (all in dot cards) should we show the symbol for plus as we say plus or is it enough to verbally say plus without showing the plus symbol card.

Please clear my doubt

Thank you

Initially just showing the dot cards with quantities and saying full equation is enough (showing 2, 3, 5; saying 2+3=5) I believe at so point you can introduce cards with pluses/minuses/etc.

Thank you soo much Alenka

Hi Alenka

1.while preparing numeral card the dimension for the number is 6” long and 3” width. what should be the thickness of the numeral? is it 1/2″ or 3/4″ thick

2. what should be the thickness of lines for signs +, _ and what is the dimension to write them?

3. why are we using red colour for numerals. can we use black colour for writing numerals?

4. can we do the dots, numerals and signs in 8″/11″ poster board

plz clarify

thank you

sutha

Hi Alenka,

I got confused reading the book and bought the dorman math kit for USD$200++… then a month later I found an app in itunes which was much much cheaper and have been using it since. I dont know whether im doing it right but I just flash it in front of my son who is now 5 month old. Usually I do it before work.. over lunch and once at night..

Now that I’ve read your thread .. and by 20.. I can already start the equation… I’m a bit blur or yet do I have time for the 9 sessions. I also dont know whether the app will do the equation automatically.

I am around the 30s for the dot program. Have you heard about the apps in itunes? I dont know how to get started on the equation.. do I go back using the cards?

With the apps I can easily use my Iphone or my ipad for flashing..

Hi Alenka, method to my kid. well, i have some questions that i’m a little bit confused. I’m never read the book on ‘how to teach the baby math’.i have 8 months baby boy and i just started dot method to my kid. 1 flashed the card to him 3 times daily. This is what i’ve done.

1 day : show dot 1 only

2nd day : dot 1, dot 2

3rd day: dot 1, dot 2, dot 3..

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so until day 6, i retire dot 1 and introduce dot 6. i repeat the process until 1 i reach dot 20 now. can i just continue showing dots until 100 and after that i introduce him addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.

pls help..thanks.

Hello,

I have a few questions on the reading and mathematics methods.

My oldest son is 3 and already knows his alphabet. Will he be able to still do the reading method? If not, is there a program you recommend? I also know that my son may be too old for the math method since you don’t recommend starting past age 3. Is there another program you recommend for math as well? This would really help us out a lot. We are striving for a good educational experience that will set him up for life.

Any information would help.

Thank you very much,

Ariel

Hi Alenka,

I taught my kids through dot card 43. Then I showed her numeric numbers from 1 to 10. After that she was interested in numbers, not dots. What should I do?

Hi everybody,

I started the dot method with my 20 month old. I know you are not supposed to test them but I can help it, I want to know if is working or not. Anyway, when I ask her sometimes she gets, but not always. Does anybody has the same experience? or your little ones get it all the time? Also, I’m planning on starting the reading program. Should I do both Math and Reading?

Thanks

Hello

My daughter is 22 months now. Can I start cards flasing right now or it is too late to start . I need your suggestions…

Thank you